The dumbest people on Earth

Little in our political discourse is quite so annoying as liberal former war supporters who still refuse to acknowledge the consequences of their past stupidity.

Look, you were fucking wrong.

There was never a good reason to support the war.

You should have opposed the war with everything you had.

You didn't, and your failure cost a lot of people their lives.

And I don't give a shit how being wrong makes you feel, especially if you feel that your wittow feewings are the most important casualty of your idiotic choice.

It's not the responsibility of those of us who were right* to coddle you and try to "understand" how you could have been so goddamned stupid. It's your responsibility to own up to what you did without making deluded, pathetic excuses.

Atrios:

Okay, I'm having an angry day as I got sucked into reading a bunch of liberal hawk horseshit from back in the day. Aside from the arguments they were making, what's infuriating is the endless preening. So often they would put themselves at the center of the narrative, as if anyone does or should give a rat's ass about their intellectual journey, or deep internal struggle, or whatever the fuck. As if any of that mattered.

And now a lot of people are dead, have holes in their heads, can't move, don't have legs, are suicidal, etc... because a bunch of self-important narcissists got off on the idea that they played a central role in creating history, or some such crap.

arggh

David Rees, quoting the buffoon Michael Ignatieff:

"The people who truly showed good judgment on Iraq predicted the consequences that actually ensued but also rightly evaluated the motives that led to the action. They did not necessarily possess more knowledge than the rest of us. They labored, as everyone did, with the same faulty intelligence and lack of knowledge of Iraq's fissured sectarian history. What they didn't do was take wishes for reality. They didn't suppose, as President Bush did, that because they believed in the integrity of their own motives everyone else in the region would believe in it, too. They didn't suppose that a free state could arise on the foundations of 35 years of police terror. They didn't suppose that America had the power to shape political outcomes in a faraway country of which most Americans knew little. They didn't believe that because America defended human rights and freedom in Bosnia and Kosovo it had to be doing so in Iraq. They avoided all these mistakes."

Yeah, you're right, they did. Do you know why? Because they're not retarded.

I think there's a feeling among the former war supporters that the overall takeaway we should have from the Iraq fiasco was that it was a very complicated world in early 2003, and it wasn't easy to tell whether invading Iraq was a bad idea or a good one.

But it was easy. It was really, really obvious.

And if we're honestly seeking to learn something, we shouldn't forget that. The most ominous lesson of the Iraq war is how obviously bad the idea was -- in every way -- and at the same time how easy was for the Bush Administration to make it happen.

This nation went fucking crazy.

Until we acknowledge that, we haven't learned a damn thing.

*"Those of us who were right": This phrase denotes the vast majority of war opponents who, without being motivated by ideology or "Bush hatred," simply saw that a) We were obviously being lied to, b) The United States was severely morally compromised by launching hostilities without solid reasons, and c) This war was going to be a disaster for every party involved. In other words, "those of us who were right" does not mean the cartoon, flag-burning, reflexively America-hating anarchist that so many former war supporters still try to pretend represented the majority of war opposition. No, we were actually reasonable, America-loving people who tried very, very patiently to explain to you why the war was wrong six ways from Sunday. You just didn't listen.