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UPDATE: When I first wrote this entry, I didn't know much about J.P. Holding, not really being up on my internet trolls. But from information submitted by readers, it turns out that even by mocking him in this blog entry...


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May 11, 2006

Christian apologist J.P. Holding admits that Jesus never existed

UPDATE: When I first wrote this entry, I didn't know much about J.P. Holding, not really being up on my internet trolls. But from information submitted by readers, it turns out that even by mocking him in this blog entry I am apparently taking him far too seriously. "J.P Holding" is a false name used by Robert Turkel, a huckster who employs a cast of false identities. For example, he posts self-supporting messages on internet forums and weblog comments under the name "Sheila Rangslinger" and may use other aliases, all in an attempt, apparently, to make it look as if people other than Robert Turkel agree with Robert Turkel. (Whether slipping into his "Sheila" false identity also satisfies any of Turkel's cross-dressing fantasies is unknown at this time.)

By acknowledging "J.P. Holding's" debate challenge, I was unfortunately just giving a troll exactly what a troll wants: undeserved attention. Oh well. My bad.

Others have ferreted out Robert Turkel's false identities and documented his troll behavior:

J.P. Holding fabrications

Robert Turkel, entrepreneur

J.P. Holding's abusive style

And now to the original entry:

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This is a stunner. Talk about strange bedfellows.

A notorious Christian apologist named J.P. Holding has admitted that the case made in The God Who Wasn't There is so solid that he could not refute it in a debate. He has backed out of a former debate challenge by stating:

I believe that Brian Flemming is right and that he will win any debate.

Wow.

Of course, as you probably suspect, that's not the whole story. Mr. Holding is being sarcastic in the above statement. He says that if he signed the required Statement of Belief, that would be the same thing as saying, "I believe that Brian Flemming is right."

But that tells us a lot right there, doesn't it?

He's essentially said this:

If the propositions in the Statement of Belief are true, Jesus did not exist.

I don't see how it could be read any other way. J.P. Holding is essentially admitting that without the supernatural trump card, his position loses.

No rational person familiar with the facts could disagree with the Statement of Belief. Every one of those assertions is as obvious as "Brian Flemming takes enormous glee in manipulating Christian lunatics." The only way not to believe them is to use the magic of faith.

So, rational people rejoice. A Christian apologist has freed you to believe that Jesus didn't exist.

And he's admitted that if it weren't for the crazy part of his brain, he'd believe that, too.

To read Mr. Holding's statement, scroll all the way down at this page.

(Oh, and here's a window, possibly, into why J.P. Holding has a fixation on my movie. Imagine that you thought your eternal happiness was dependent on the whim of a notably temperamental sky god. And now imagine this sky god Googled you. Would He understand the meaning of "Sponsored Links"?)





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